Harry Alford was on Bill O’Reilly’s right-wing Fox News show to discuss his heated and highly-publicized confrontation with Sen. Barbara Boxer during a committee meeting. Obviously, when race is a factor it grabs the attention of a lot of people (it’s even more interesting when you have a black conservative and a white liberal). I still question Boxer’s motives and wonder why she brought race into the issue the way she did (and why she did not have others there to testify rather than read their opinions from paper). But, we’ve been down that road. The more I listen to Alford the more I hear his inner right winger beginning to come out. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with it, but Alford runs the risk of overplaying his hand by trying to portray Boxer as something she clearly isn’t. Boxer may be a partisan, and she may be arrogant as hell, but she is no racist.
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Tags: Barbara Boxer, Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh, Harry Alford, National Black Chamber of Commerce, U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, United States Senate
This is an outline of the testimony of Harry C. Alford, president and CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce. This was submitted to the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works (chaired by Sen. Barbara Boxer) on July 16, 2009.
Alford was well-researched and seemed prepared for the hearing.
I wanted to post this and then offer some random thoughts and questions.
Here is the testimony (the link is provided below):
Madam Chairwoman, ladies and gentlemen of the Committee. On behalf of the National Black Chamber of Commerce (NBCC), thank you for the opportunity to address you today.
I come to you, not as an economist, but with a deep understanding of small and minority-owned businesses and as someone who has experience with consumer behavior.
Climate change is a vital issue that must be addressed. It will take time and cost real money to mitigate humanity’s influence on our climate. The thing that concerns me and many of the 95,000 business members of the National Black Chamber is that any legislation Congress enacts must consider the impact that costs will have on small and minority-owned businesses, their ability to create jobs and the impact on the communities that they serve.
Regretfully, the current legislation out of the U.S. House of Representatives will negatively impact the most vulnerable of our society. I’m sure that those who proposed it had the best intentions, but the bill doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do, and it does so at a very high cost — especially high for working families and small business owners.
I learned a long time ago to beware of any document that has more authors than readers. The fact that so few people have actually read the House bill may explain why the full costs that American businesses and everyday people would shoulder are not readily apparent. Let me quote from a recent study that we did with CRA International:
· Businesses and consumers will face higher energy and transportation costs that could lead to increased costs of other goods and services throughout the economy;
· Household disposable income and household consumption would fall. Purchasing power would decline by $730 in 2015 and $940 in 2050, adjusted against 2010 base income levels;
· Wages and returns on investment would fall, lowering productivity growth and reducing employment opportunities. Wages would decline $170 a year by 2015, $390 a year by 2030 and $960 a year by 2050;
· Green jobs gained would be swamped by jobs lost in old industries and businesses, leading to a net loss of 2.3 million to 2.7 million jobs.
These impacts, the study found, would differ across regions, across industries and across income levels depending on changes in local energy costs and on allocation formulas for permits. And that worries me and my members because the black community suffers mightily when the economy goes south.
Finally, there’s the issue of how this House bill would limit our ability to compete internationally. Our study found that there is no environmental impact to justify this loss of income and siphoning away our nation’s wealth as long as developing nations such as China and India aren’t part of the program. They’ll be happy to open the factories and the businesses we can’t afford to build here. Our report also highlighted that U.S. emissions would exceed the caps put on them by 30% due to international offsets, resulting in a transfer of wealth varying from $40 billion to $60 billion per year from 2012 to 2030. In other words, we’re going to send roughly $700 billion to $1 trillion abroad to make up for 30% higher pollution here. Combine these costs with the kind of badly-needed potential revenue we would be leaving on the table by giving away 85% of the emissions permits.
I opposed the massive bail out of Wall Street last fall because it sent the wrong signal by rewarding the wrong people, the ones who got us into our current mess. Now we’re contemplating handing the reins of our economy over to emissions traders on Wall Street who will deal in politically-generated emissions permits and foreign offsets. The inherent complexity of a government-regulated emissions system, especially with an unenforceable international component, sets the stage for a perpetual struggle for political handouts. And that is a recipe for corruption, not for emissions reductions.
The bottom line is this: any climate legislation that fails to meaningfully reduce the human impact on the climate or does so in an economically unsustainable manner, can’t be effective. Under the House bill, American consumers and businesses would take on a heavy burden. This burden would fall at exactly the wrong time.
While consumers may not have much choice but to pay the higher energy costs that would be passed onto them if the current legislation becomes law, the actions they would take to deal with those costs would affect us all. They would buy less and delay their purchasing decisions – exactly the opposite of what we need to lift ourselves out of our historic economic dilemma. Further, many low-income families and those on fixed incomes will have to make even tougher choices. Imagine the elderly woman who has to choose between heating her home and purchasing the food that she needs.
Another thing will happen, too. When those consumers lose their jobs as a result of cap-andtrade legislation – including those who may ultimately be encouraging you to vote for it – they will come looking for someone to blame. And that someone could be their elected officials.
I urge the Senate to take a different path. – one that marries our need to address climate change with our economic realities.
I’m not a climate change expert, but I have to believe that there are better options than the one currently on the table. I saw an article the other day in the San Francisco Chronicle that cited Elaine Kamarck, former advisor to Vice President Al Gore. She just released a paper on the historical politics surrounding climate change legislation in the U.S. She said, “If we can design a policy that is transparent and easy for people to understand, puts an effective price on carbon, and reimburses average Americans for all or nearly all of their increased costs, we have a chance of reversing climate change in a timely manner.”
She also said that “no major policy change has ever occurred without first getting the politics right.”
I think she’s spot on, but I’d add that it’s equally important to get the economics right. If we don’t, we won’t truly get to where we want to be on the climate front, the economic front, or any other front. I thank you for your time and look forward to answering any questions you may have.
First off … Barbara Boxer is NOT a racist, but she did seem to be racial in her interaction with Alford.
If Alford was brought to this hearing to speak on behalf of black people, then why would Boxer turn around and seemingly attempt to discredit him (trying to say he was not honest about where he lived and then putting up differing black views)? It was as if she (or her committee as a whole) brought Alford to the hearing to try and embarrass him.
I am not saying there’s anything wrong with differing views, but why were people representing these differing views not speaking to the committee in person?
If she or other committee members did not believe Alford was an accurate representation of the so-called black community, then where were others who could give a more broad representation of the so-called black community?
Where were these other black leaders she cited, why were just their statements put into the record by Boxer, why was Alford even invited and why did Boxer’s committee invite him to turn around and attempt, seemingly, to discredit his opinion?
In a subsequent interview, Alford (who claims to be an independent) I think went a bit overboard, but I can understand why he’s upset about his treatment.
Sen. Boxer, who seemed to be talking down to Alford, did not seem to learn pretty much anything from her disrespectful and arrogant treatment of Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh.
Tags: Barbara Boxer, Environment and Public Works Committee, Fox Nation, Harry C. Alford, National Black Chamber of Commerce, senator
I saw this video on Fox Nation (which usually makes me skeptical). But, as I watched the video, I was a little puzzled by the exchange between Sen. Barbara Boxer and Harry C. Alford, president and CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce during an Environment and Public Works Committee (Boxer is the committee chair) hearing (this turned out to be probably the most exciting one of these committee meetings ever), according to a POLITICO article:
Boxer was speaking to panelist Harry C. Alford, the president & CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce.
They first started talking about where he lived, which led to Boxer telling him, “Let me talk to you, this is friendly.”
That didn’t last too long.
Boxer then quoted a NAACP resolution that passed and put it in the record.
ALFORD: “What does that mean?”
BOXER: “Sir, we’re going to put that in the record…” Alford: “What does that mean, though? The NAACP has a resolution, what does that mean?”
BOXER: “Sir, they could say the same thing about what do you mean…”
ALFORD: “I’ve got documentation.”
BOXER: “Sir, they passed it. They passed it. Now, also, if that isn’t interesting you to we’ll quote John Grant, who is the CEO of 100 Black Men of Atlanta.” [She goes on to read quote.]
ALFORD: “Madam Chair, that is condescending to me. I’m the National Black Chamber of Commerce and you’re trying to put up some other black group to pit against me.”
BOXER: “If this gentlemen were here he would be proud that he was being quoted.”
ALFORD: “He should have been invited!”
BOXER: “…just as he would be proud..” Alford: “It is condescending to me.”
BOXER: “…he’s proud, I’m sure, that I am quoting him.”
ALFORD: “All that’s condescending, and I don’t like it. It’s racial. I don’t like it. I take offense to it. As an African-American and a veteran of this country, I take offense to that!”
BOXER: “… offense at the fact that I would quote …?” Alford: “You’re quoting some other black man. Why don’t you quote some other Asian … or … you are being racial here. And I think you’re getting to a path here that’s going to explode.”
Boxer reviews what she had been doing and then mentions that “there is definitely differing opinions in the black community. Just as there are in my community.”
ALFORD: “You’re speaking on behalf of the black community?”
BOXER: “No. I am putting in the record a statement by the NAACP.”
BOXER: “Because I think it is quite relevant.”
ALFORD: “… Why are you doing the Colored People Association study with the Black Chamber of Commerce?”
BOXER: “I am trying to show the diversity of support that we have.”
BOXER: “And I will go ahead and do one more diversity of support…”
Eventually Alford declares, “We are referring to the experts regardless of their color. And for someone to tell me, an African-American, college-educated veteran of the United States Army that I must contend with some other black group and put aside everything else in here — this has nothing to do with the NAACP and really has nothing to do with the National Black Chamber of Commerce. We’re talking energy and that road the chair went down, I think, is god-awful.”
I guess I find it puzzling that she was emphasizing race as much as she was during this exchange. Some of it seemed out of context. I didn’t get her reason for emphasizing race and, based upon what I saw, Alford had a legitimate beef.
Tags: Barbara Boxer, Big Hollywood, Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh, Chuck DeVore, content, military, senator
The Web site Big Hollywood has a blog from Chuck DeVore, who is running against Sen. Barbara Boxer in 2010. Now, some of you probably know where this is going already. As some of you also may recall, I was critical of Sen. Boxer for what seemed an arrogant lack of respect toward Brigadier General Michael Walsh this week during a hearing on Capitol Hill. While I think Sen. Boxer could have displayed a little more respect for the environment Gen. Walsh is coming from, I do draw the line with this blog below:
Barbara Boxer’s snippy confrontation with Brigadier General Michael Walsh on Capitol Hill on June 16, 2009 (Don’t call me “Ma’am,” call me “Senator”) wasn’t a display of a lack of proper military respect for Boxer, it was an open display of contempt from Boxer towards the people who serve in the military. That the Senator’s contempt was open and obvious shows Boxer’s lack of acting skills – most liberals have mastered the art of at least acting like they respect the men and women in the armed services.
That is a bunch of bull, and it’s sad when some of these conservatives come out and try so hard to portray some liberals as being against the military. Look, Sen. Boxer (in my opinion) made a bad choice with her words, but that is not indicative of “contempt from Boxer towards the people who serve in the military.” To make a comment like that makes you question the writer’s agenda.
Speaking of the writer’s possible agenda:
Here is DeVore’s bio from Big Hollywood:
Chuck DeVore is a California State Assemblyman and candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010. He retired from the Army National Guard at the rank of lieutenant colonel and served as a Reagan White House appointee in the Pentagon. He co-authored the novel China Attacks.
I think DeVore could have made his point without making such a blatantly outrageous comment about Sen. Boxer’s feelings for the military. To exploit the military for political gain is wrong.
Tags: Barbara Boxer, Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh, fox news, Sen. Boxer, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
I read this from the Fox News Web site:
In case you forgot, Barbara Boxer is a senator.
The feisty California lawmaker felt the need to remind an Army brigadier general of that fact Tuesday during a hearing before her Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, where the military officer testifying had the apparent gall to call Boxer “ma’am.”
Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh, with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, was testifying on the Louisiana coastal restoration process in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. He began to answer one of Boxer’s questions with “ma’am” when Boxer immediately cut him off.
“You know, do me a favor,” an irritated Boxer said. “Could say ‘senator’ instead of ‘ma’am?’”
“Yes, ma’am,” Walsh interjected.
“It’s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I’d appreciate it, yes, thank you,” she said.
“Yes, senator,” he responded.
Wow, that is kind of hypersensitive (and perhaps arrogant) on the part of Sen. Boxer.